Thanks for sharing these amazing pics, Quickjaws! Those are my thoughts exactly. They just look VERY different from anything LJN has made for the TCats line, or anything that appeared in the cartoons. :confused I'm just guessing that maybe these two were planned for another toyline and when that didn't materialize, LJN tried to incorporate them into the TCats line. They did that with some of the weapons (Tuska's gun) and also were planning to do that with the unproduced Lizzor.